GUI/X less Puppy

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micah · #1 Post by **micah** » Tue 26 May 2009, 00:16

I have searched the forums and google but I cannot find anything. I have an old Dell PII 233 Laptop that the mouse doesnt work on and I would like to install puppy on it but I dont want any GUI or X stuff. I have see a post some where about a console only puppy but I cannot find it anywhere. Right now im using a base debian install. Any suggestions.

technosaurus · #2 Post by **technosaurus** » Tue 26 May 2009, 17:14

you could try running dir2sfs on an empty directory (possibly with an empty directory tree) and naming the sfs pup_XXX.sfs, but that would be COMPLETELY barebones - I havn't tried it but I can give it a run tonight and let you know. What other utilities do you need?

micah · #3 Post by **micah** » Tue 26 May 2009, 17:37

All I really need are links2 with graphics mode. Nano for a text editor. Ndiswrapper for my wifi card. FBI or ZGV for an image view. Aumix and mp3blaster for music. SSH would be nice. Fetchmail, Procmail, and Mutt for email. Im still very new to puppy so I havent looked in to doing a remaster so any help you can give me would be great.

Todd · #4 Post by **Todd** » Tue 26 May 2009, 18:07

I think what you are looking for is OneBone. However, I don't know who would have a copy lying around.

panzerpuppy · #5 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Wed 27 May 2009, 01:17

Just boot the standard Puppy with the

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puppy pfix=nox

command and you have a barebones GUI/X-less Puppy.

Lobster · #6 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 27 May 2009, 06:27

a console only puppy

That is picopup -anyone know where it can be downloaded?

paulh177 · #7 Post by **paulh177** » Wed 27 May 2009, 06:55

onebone is downloadable at http://puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/vintage/

someone will probably come up with a location for picopup ...

zenfunk · #8 Post by **zenfunk** » Wed 27 May 2009, 07:29

I am wondering if the remaster scripts work without X. A lot of the dialogs in these scripts open propper windows with buttons etc. On the other hand one could use a standard puppy, ad the cli- apps one would need and remaster everything under X. Afterwards you could boot with the pfix=nox boot parameter and there you are- cli distro.

The remaster scripts are surprisingly easy to work with. I, as a relative linux newbie, was able to cook my own distro in no time.

If you do this, be sure to publish your work. I'm very interested in a cli distro, but ATM there are other projects that need my attention (e.g. puppy for sailors...).

micah · #9 Post by **micah** » Wed 27 May 2009, 17:53

Onebone and picopup are alittle to old i think. Im going to give the pfix=nox a try and see how that goes. Ill post back after I give it a try.

technosaurus · #10 Post by **technosaurus** » Wed 27 May 2009, 18:14

here is my semi-manual remaster method?

from a full working & compatible puppy/puplet (same kernel etc..)
mount a pup_XXX.sfs and copy it to a folder (or you can start from an empty folder)
do all of your manual editing of the structure (you can expand pets using pet2tgz and dump them in the base of the folder you created, delete files or modify configurations)
run dir2sfs on the directory
rename the sfs to pup_XXX.sfs (XXX must match your initrd.gz version)
copy all of the files to a folder from the corresponding iso except boot.cat and the pup_XXX.sfs (use the new pup_XXX.sfs - boot.cat will be auto generated)

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mkisofs -D -R -o mypuplet-XXX.iso -b isolinux.bin -c boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table NAMEOFYOURFOLDER

I do all but the last step and use a frugal install to check as I reach build milestones.... then I make the iso once it is all checked out

sorry if it is not useful - for me it is faster than trying to do unleashed because I can QC the packages one by one

Trobin · #11 Post by **Trobin** » Wed 27 May 2009, 23:18

go to ~/usr/X11R7/bin and delete the X symlink. Reboot and the gui won't be loaded. Puppy will be guiless until you run xorgwizard.

Speakpup, based on 2.17, could be run as a gui-less puppy.

http://puppylinux.ca/members/Seeing-Eye-Puppy/
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sue · #12 Post by **sue** » Thu 28 May 2009, 09:55

The problem is that most of the setup scripts have X-related dialogs in them, and will not run successfully from a pfix=nox startup. If puppy configures correctly for you w/o any user input at all, you might be okay.

I went hunting for an old TUI library, but didn't find anything that looked like it could substitute for gtkdialog. I don't know about the new Vala/Genie stuff.

zenfunk · #13 Post by **zenfunk** » Thu 28 May 2009, 13:27

Well, it's not that a PII 233 MHz couldn't run X at all. So if you have to set stuff up you will be fine with running it once in a while- just plug in an external mouse.
Running without X on a daily basis will give you an unbeatable speed advantage though.

@ micah:
If you bother you might probably want to try my puplet PULP. It should give you a satisfactory user experience with X and an external mouse, even at 233 Mhz. (I need betatesters anyways

)

Get it here:
flusslinie.wordpress.com

sue · #14 Post by **sue** » Thu 18 Jun 2009, 03:39

I was fighting with bad intel video drivers. X wouldn't come up at all, even in Xvesa. This was due to two different sets of bugs (both known problems), but the net effect was no puppy on my new laptop. javascript:emoticon('

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woof came to the rescue in March/April. javascript:emoticon(':D')

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